something about the business renewal thingy i helped my dad in about a few months ago. The renewal does not include the certification and needs to pay 10 bucks for the certificate. Sometimes, i think it is still easier to go down personally and get the document there and then rather than over the internet. i forgot all about getting the hardcopy certificate as did not know my dad needs that for business. i dun remember the other time i printed that out for him. then again maybe i forgot ,,, maybe i did paid that 10 bucks for the certificate. There's just so much to say about my memory. There's so many passwords to remember that i have problem logging into many accounts which i seldom utilized. Darn it ,,,,, have to reset password and stuff ,, This is the downside of the internet.